Thursday, May 17, 2018

A Little Insight Into Palestine and Israel

Liz Michael: The problem with "facts vs. mythology" is that it is often hard to distinguish between the two, and also bring up the difference between "mythology as in something probably true on some level but not totally provable" and "mythology is total bullshit". I mean, talk to any fundamentalist Christian and you will clear hear them assert all manner of thing as "fact" even when it is impossible for it to be true. Oddly enough the Jews, who have been oft maligned in this thread, tend to have a more logical approach than the Christians do to these same writings.
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Liz Michael: And the clear "fact vs. mythology" problem that some of y'all have is the term Zionist. Y'all have taken this word from us, given it a different definition than we have for that word, failed to make the distinction, and then use the word as if all Jews are guilty of a handful of things that really only handful of schmucks are. (By the way, you can call them schmucks, it would be more accurate than calling them Zionists.)
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 L Reichard White:::::::: Well, in the '70s I respected the Israelis for how they handled the El Al hijackings. And I bought most of the Israeli party line. Further, I suspect a lot of Jewish genes in my family. 

But I got a wake-up call when I ran for Senate 3 in Nevada, and, taking a consistent Libertarian position, endorsed a complete cessation of all taxpayer financed foreign aid. The ADL branded me anti-Semitic because, when asked, I said that included aid to Israel. 

Since, I've recognized the slick PR etc. instieated by AIPAC, etc. and what the Israelis have been doing to the so-called "Palestinians." There's some ego involved I'm sure -- I don't like being made a fool of. If I'm not careful, I find myself emotionally very close to becoming a classic anti-Semite. Jacque -- and Steve Lewis, have pulled me back from the edge several times. 

Dr. Norman Finkelstein -- impeccable dude if you like unemotional facts -- is my favorite current source. This is worth a look. It's telling that he's been under attack ever since he came forward. I keep losing one of his best brief interviews because SOMEBODY keeps getting it taken off youtube. CrossTalk: Norman Finkelstein vs. Israel On Peter Lavelle's CrossTalk, Israel critic Norman Finkelstein faces off against a formidable spokesperson of Israel's 'soft power'. November 10 at 1:23pm · Like · 2 · Remove Preview
Liz Michael: Well, the ADL isn't exactly best friends with me and I AM Jewish. I personally think the ADL is essentially just using a racial cover to promote socialism, much like the NAACP has also become. If the ADL REALLY cared about the Jewish people, they would never support gun control. My view of AIPAC is that they don't have to do very much to encourage support of Israel, as most of the Congress is Zionist, and probably a majority of America supports Israel. (I actually do have a small history being on the receiving end of ADL stuff so I know of where you speak.)
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Liz Michael: Well, I am fully aware that the Jews do things to the Palestinians and the Palestinians do things to Jews. I wouldn't really take a side except for the fact that the Muslims have already chosen my side for me. As a Jew, a Zionist, a Lesbian, and a Woman, which side would accept me and which side would kill me is already written in stone, and I cannot unwrite it even if I wanted to. It is a shame because I could be a very good peacemaker between the two but the Muslims do not want peace.
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Jacque Sheete: Many, many fine Jewish folk know the score. The rich sadistic violent Zionists are a tiny minority and they're making real Jews look bad. Unfortunately many innocent Jews believe the propaganda as do most of the Christian goyim.
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Jacque Sheete: A fine and informative review of an excellent book, by a credible source, which I found worthwhile.
A Thoughtful Look At Zionism's Often Overlooked Dark Side 

Allan C. Brownfeld, THE DARK SIDE OF ZIONISM by Baylis Thomas Lexington Books, 265 Pages Article Details The American Council for Judaism ACJ has long offered a distinctive alternative vision of identity and commitment for the American Jewish community, by affirming these principles: Judaism is a universal religious faith, we are committed to the principles of classical reform judaism, we embrace the d... November 10 at 1:41pm · Unlike · 1 · Remove Preview 

L Reichard White:::::::: A related discussion at link below. Mostly rehash & irrelevant except for Barbara Whetstine Nutt's comments, November 10 at 2:40pm · Like · 1 

L Reichard White:::::::: This is seriously relevant - - - Putin: Israel's nuclear weapons just make it a target Russian president: Syria's WMDs a counter to Israel's alleged nukes, which create November 10 at 3:35pm · Like · 1 · Remove Preview
Liz Michael: *Is it OK for ANYONE to steal their land and houses?* - Look, if any Arabs can demonstrate that they owned specific land that was specifically stolen, I'm all for they being allowed to return to that specific land, or their heirs if they are dead. That I'm all for. However if someone is saying that whole of Israel was "stolen", that's bullshit.
November 10 at 4:15pm · Like
Jacque Sheete: Now ain't this clever?
"...if any Arabs can demonstrate that they owned specific land that was specifically stolen..." 

This strawman argument is not clever at all. 

"...if someone is saying that whole of Israel was "stolen", that's bullshit." 

Duh. November 10 at 5:05pm · Like 

L Reichard White:::::::: Well, here's a bit cleaned up example of EXACTLY what happened -- and happens - - - 

The House Key, Barbara Whetstine Nutt
 L Reichard White
Quick! Someone remind me that there are still SOME nice Jewish folks - - - -
The heat and dust of the desert clime bears down on those wandering in the outskirts of Akraba, a Palestinian town in northern West Bank. Few signs of life can be spotted amidst the rocky terrain. ...
Valiant Vetter
Valiant Vetter There are - I know many...

Then again, I suppose being hated and persecuted and nearly wiped from the face of the earth a few times can make a people a mite testy...
L Reichard White
L Reichard White Yep, I suppose the Palestinians DO feel that way - - - ;)
Valiant Vetter
Valiant Vetter Crack *the* book L Reichard White - think 1948, 1967, think the thirties and the forties in Germany, think about antisemitism TO THIS DAY in the US.

Where are the Palestinian Holocaust museums Reichard? I've been to several and aside from Gypsies, hom
osexuals, and a few other fringe groups, I don't recall a mass extermination of any other races or religions besides Jews.

Frankly, I think the USA and the UN should piss off and let the chips fall where they may. The Jews are a warrior race and would kick almost any opponents ass. (Again, 1948, 1967)

I'm not even Jewish and the conversation is pissing me off!
Barbara Whetstine Nutt
Barbara Whetstine Nutt Pissing YOU off?

Before making statements such as "I don't recall a mass extermination of any other races or religions besides Jews."


The powerful and hard-hitting documentary, American Holocaust, is quite possibly the only film that reveals the link between the Nazi holocaust, which claimed at least 6 million Jews, and the American Holocaust which claimed, according to conservative estimates, 19 million Indigenous People.

It is seldom noted anywhere in fact, be it in textbooks or on the internet, that Hitler studied Americas Indian policy, and used it as a model for what he termed the final solution.

He wasnt the only one either. Its not explicitly mentioned in the film, but its well known that members of the National Party government in South Africa studied the American approach before they introduced the system of racial apartheid, which lasted from 1948 to 1994. Other fascist regimes, for instance, in South and Central America, studied the same policy.

Noted even less frequently, Canada's Aboriginal policy was also closely examined for its psychological properties. America always took the more wide-open approach, for example, by decimating the Buffalo to get rid of a primary food source, by introducing pox blankets, and by giving $1 rewards to settlers in return for scalps of Indigenous Men, women, and children, among many, many other horrendous acts. Canada, on the other hand, was more bureaucratic about it. They used what I like to call the gentlemans touch, because instead of extinguishment, Canada sought to remove the Indian from the Man and the Women and the Child, through a long-term, and very specific program of internal breakdown and replacement and called it assimilation. America had its own assimilation program, but Canada was far more technical about it.

Perhaps these points would have been more closely examined in American Holocaust if the film had been completed. The films director, Joanelle Romero, says shes been turned down from all sources of funding since she began putting it together in 1995.

Perhaps its just not good business to invest in something that tells so much truth? In any event, Romero produced a shortened, 29-minute version of the film in 2001, with the hope of encouraging new funders so she could complete American Holocaust. Eight years on, Romero is still looking for funds.

American Holocaust may never become the 90-minute documentary Romero hoped to create, to help expose the most substantial act of genocide that the world has ever seen one that continues even as you read these words.

watch - Native american Holocaust Exterminate Them! The California Story (FULL) -


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Barbara Whetstine Nutt
Barbara Whetstine Nutt In the last 50 years, the United States has promoted, financed and participated in over 200 incursions and 20 separate wars, killing over 8,000,000 people.

1952 to 1979 Over 70,000 Iranians killed. ( Ayatollah Khomeini, US public enemy for the 1980
s, was on the CIA payroll while in exile in Paris in 1970s, as were Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden at different times and in different places. )

1954 - 120,000 Guatemalans killed

1954 to 1975, 4,000,000 Vietnamese and Cambodians killed.

1965 - 3,000 Dominican Republicans killed

1965 - 800,000 Indonesians killed

1973 - 30,000 Chileans killed

1975 - 250,000 East Timorese killed

1970s - 1,000,000 Angolans killed

1984 - 30,000 Nicaraguans killed

1980s - 80,000 El Salvadoreans killed

1989 - 8,000 Panamanians killed in an attempt to capture George H. Bush's CIA partner now turned enemy, Manuel Noriega,

1980s - over 700,000 Libyans, Grenadians, Somalians, Haitians, Afghanistanis, Sudanese, Brazilians, Argentineans and Yugoslavians killed,

1991 - over 1,000,000 Iraqis killed, including over 500,000 children -- about which Madeline Albright ( then, Secretary of State ) said "their deaths are worth the cost". While George W. Bush owns over 80% of the oil wells in Kuwait, trouble will continue there.

( Source: Philip Bradbury, Insight Magazine, November 2001 )

View the 200+ Incursions by the United States since WWII


Over the years, the US government has supported coups that brought a number of repressive and brutal regimes to power, as well as the dirty wars which followed. Chile, Djakarta, El Salvador, Iran - the list goes on. In many cases military regimes replaced democratically elected leaders, and the killing sprees which followed were justified by the US government as necessary to wipe out communism--while being quietly covered up. The following links are meant to provide an introduction to the many notorious incidents that occurred from the 60's to the 80's. This list is by no means exhaustive, but it should begin to shed some light on the long history of questionable US foreign policies.

A CIA-backed coup and massacre in Indonesia in the 1960's may have taken the lives of up to a million people.

Thousands of declassified CIA documents reveal that the CIA aided in the overthrow of democratically elected Chilean President Salvador Allende in the 70's, thus putting Augusto Pinochet into power. You may have heard Pinochet's name before: his infamously brutal regime saw thousands killed, tortured, and "disappeared."

Henry Kissinger played a key role in the overthrow of Allende. This article explains his involvement (which he denies in his memoirs), and details the many instances of direct US and CIA involvement in the situation, such as setting up a fascist organization run by a former PR person for the Ford Motor Company.
Barbara Whetstine Nutt
Barbara Whetstine Nutt Now let me tell you a little about me, and a true story that took place when I was living in the UAE, United Arab Emirates.

Steve Lewis
Steve Lewis thank you Barbara - and by the way the pentagon calls ALL reservations 'prisoner of war camps' and has them by number....

Monday, August 22, 2016

Is This What You Want for Your Kids, Grand Kids & the Yet Unborn?

"Government is not eloquence, it is not reason; it is force, and like fire, makes a dangerous servant and a fearful master." --George Washington

"The State represents violence in a concentrated and organized form. The individual has a soul, but as the State is a soulless machine, it can never be weaned from violence to which it owes its very existence." --Mohandas K. Gandhi

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Sunday, October 12, 2014


1. Ebola virus (EBOV, formerly designated Zaire ebolavirus) is the most dangerous of the five known viruses within the genus Ebolavirus.[1] ...Because of its high mortality rate, EBOV is also listed as a select agent, World Health Organization Risk Group 4 Pathogen (requiring Biosafety Level 4-equivalent containment), a U.S. National Institutes of Health/National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Category A Priority Pathogen, U.S. CDC Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Category A Bioterrorism Agent, and listed as a Biological Agent for Export Control by the Australia Group.... --Ebola virus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

2. As you can see, Ebola is a textbook example of the most dangerous microorganisms, requiring the highest level of biosafety, that is, Biosafety Level 4-equivalent containment. Here's what CDC says about Level 4 containment - - -
There are a small number of BSL-4 [BioSafety Level 4] labs in the United States and around the world. The microbes in a BSL-4 lab are dangerous and exotic, posing a high risk of aerosol-transmitted infections. Infections caused by these microbes are frequently fatal and without treatment or vaccines. Two examples of microbes worked with in a BSL-4 laboratory include Ebola and Marburg viruses.... --CDC LC Quick Learn: Recognize the four Biosafety Levels
3. Here's what the Main Stream tells you:
They [those who've had contact with a suspected Ebola victim] are considered to be at low risk of infection. The virus is spread only through contact with the bodily fluids of patients who have developed symptoms, Chioro said.... --Brazil announces its first suspected Ebola case; death toll tops 4,000 - LA Times
Here's the truth FROM CDC WEBPAGE: "If a symptomatic patient with Ebola coughs or sneezes on someone, and saliva or mucus come into contact with that person's eyes, nose or mouth, these fluids may transmit the disease." --The CDC & The UN Are Forced to Admit That Ebola is Airborne

4. But how long can Ebola survive in a sneeze aerosol or on contaminated surfaces? This will give you an idea, and thanks to Whyte Otf Sapphire:
Our study has shown that Lake Victoria marburgvirus (MARV) and Zaire ebolavirus (ZEBOV) can survive for long periods in different liquid media and can also be recovered from plastic and glass surfaces at low temperatures [reportedly temperatures below ~75° F (24° C)] for over 3 weeks. The decay rates of ZEBOV and Reston ebolavirus (REBOV) plus MARV within a dynamic aerosol were calculated. ZEBOV and MARV had similar decay rates, whilst REBOV showed significantly better survival within an aerosol. --The survival of filoviruses in liquids, on solid substrates and in a dynamic aerosol - Piercy - 2010 - Journal of Applied Microbiology - Wiley Online Library
5. CNBC anchor Becky Quick says head of CDC told CNBC yesterday that it would be impossible to prevent Ebola from entering the U.S. --CNBC, October 7, 2014, 07:30:42

6. Besides Thomas Eric Duncan, the Dallas victim, another case of Ebola surfaced in Spain and another possible case in a missionary in Brazil.

7. A Texas health care worker who provided care for the Ebola patient who died there last week tested positive for the deadly virus, and sent health officials scrambling Sunday to determine how she became infected. ...Thomas Frieden, head of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, said Sunday his agency will investigate how a worker in full protective gear contracted the virus.   --'Breach in protocol' caused second U.S. Ebola infection

8. CDC says Ebola can spread quickly in health care contexts --(CNBC)

9. Connecticut declares Ebola a health emregency to make it easier to quarantine folks even though there have been no Ebola cases in Connecticut so far. --CNBC, October 8, 2014, 10:23:29

10. Here's what a full-blown response to an outbreak "looks" like:
A massive public health response to the [10 apparently weaponized] smallpox cases in Aral ensued once the disease was recognized. In less than 2 weeks, approximately 50,000 residents of Aral were vaccinated. Household quarantine of potentially exposed individuals was enacted, and hundreds were isolated in a makeshift facility at the edge of the city. All traffic in and out of the city was stopped, and approximately 5.000 sq. meter (54.000 sq. ft.) of living space and 18 metric tons of household goods were decontaminated by health officials.[15] --Aral smallpox incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Sunday, August 10, 2014

How IT thinks - - -

As folks are beginning to realize, Uncle is a propaganda-spewing international law-breaking serial mass-murdering rampaging psychopath.

And it thinks like this - - -

500,000 dead kids OK if for U.S. policy

New Mexico Governor, 7 term U.S. Congressman, & Bill Clinton's Ambassador to the U.N. Bill Richardson supports another Clinton U.N. honcho, Madeline 'Mad' Albright, specifically agreeing that the deaths of 500,000 children in pursuit of U.S. foreign policy was correct. "Well, I believe our policy was correct. Yes." --NM Governor Bill Richardson interviewed by Amy Goodman, Democracy NOW! Sep. 22, 2005

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Thursday, July 10, 2014

Prepping for Mother?

All these idiotic bank regulations (FATCA) and bank fines may not be so idiotic -- they may be preparing to attempt the mother of all currency controls -- to stop the massive repatriation of dollars when the current dollar dumping becomes a tidal-wave. Say, maybe, next week - - -
U.S. Corporations Dump Dollar For Chinese Renminbi To Buy Imports
France, Brazil, India & South Korea Join Russia & China In Post-Dollar World Order
And it isn't like this should be a surprise. Big Float's been waiting in the wings for a LONG time.

The basic fiat paper money scam is as old as, well, fiat paper money. And the results are, unfortunately, pretty much legion.

And so, for at least the last 40 years or so, Triffin's Dilemma has been gradually working it's dark magic.

Keiser, in his inimitable style, brings things up-to-date.
[Being able to indiscriminately print-up the world's "reserve currency"] offers nothing on the upside, and only subjugation and humiliation on the downside. And despite having an empire of fictional money, the US appears to still have gone bankrupt on these fictional debts. --Episode 624 - RT Keiser Report, July 08, 2014
What to do about it? Well, if you're a prepper -- and this turns out to be The Big One -- sit back and enjoy the show! Or just the next shot-on-goal.


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Saturday, June 21, 2014

The Ultimate Nature of Reality: Korzybiski, Russell, Bryson -- and Lakota Elder Dan

With his "General Semantics," Alfred Korzybiski was trying to overcome the inherent science-blocking aspects built into languages, languages which had evolved way before the basic scientific models of reality existed. Particularly blocked by those old language habits and forms -- and the psychology connected to them -- is an understanding of the inherently dynamic and ephemeral nature of "reality" reflected in the assumed atomic and sub-atomic structure of matter -- not to mention energy, space and time.

Here's how Bertrand Russell put it -
"Our raw material consisted merely of events; but when we find that we can build out of it something which, as measured, will seem to be never created or destroyed, it is not surprising that we should come to believe in "bodies." These are really mere mathematical constructions out of events, but owing to their permanence they are practically important and our senses (which were presumably developed by biological needs) are adapted for noticing them, rather than the crude continuum of events which is theoretically more fundamental". --Bertrand Russell, "ABC of Relativity," pg. 117
Bill Bryson explains it this way:
It is still a fairly astounding notion to consider that atoms are mostly empty space and that the solidity we experience all around us is an illusion. When two objects come together in the real world -- billiard balls are most often used for illustration -- they don't actually strike each other: "Rather," as Timothy Ferris explains, "the negataively charged fields of the two balls repel each other ... were it not for their electrical charges they could, like galaxies, pass right through each other unscathed." When you sit in a chair, you are not actually sitting there, but levitating above it at a height of one angstrom (a hundred millionth of a centimeter), your electrons and its electrons implacably opposed to any closer intimacy. --Bill Bryson, A Short History of Nearly Everything, pg. 141
Lakota Elder Dan explains the problems we modern language users have because of those language habits Mr. Korzybski's "General Semantics helps you break - - -

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UNCOMMON SENSE: The nature of "reality" via Bohr, Feynman, & Quantum Mechanics. AND political "states"
UNCOMMON SENSE: General Semantics. From 3 Directions - - -

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Sunday, June 15, 2014

Ten for Orwellistan!

"The legal hallmark of dictatorship has always been Preventative Law -- the concept that a man is guilty until he is proven innocent..." --Ayn Rand
"Bear with us here. We are used to reacting to crime after it happens. Preventing crime before it happens is new to us and we must adapt. Prevention is now our top priority. We're learning with each new incident." --U.S. Attorney General John Ashcroft, CNBC, October 16, 2001, 12:45:10
Homeland Security moves forward with 'pre-crime' detection --Privacy Inc. - Declan McCullagh CNET News
"This study, just released, reveals that the U.S.government has played a major role in orchestrating most of those (399 U.S. Justice Dept. reported) terrorist plots. 94% of those cases involved pre-emptive prosecutions. That's the practice of targeting those who officials deem predisposed to committing crimes before an actual crime is committed. ...Unless there is a public outcry over government manufactured crimes, that too may become common practice to target anyone." --Marina Portnaya, Headline News, RT, June 13, 2014
There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws." --Atlas Shrugged (1957)
...approximately 40,000 new state laws took effect in the U.S. just at the beginning of 2012 alone. There are so many, even Congress can't figure out how many it passed, let alone all the laws passed by states, counties and municipalities, etc. And the rules, regulations, orders and controls promulgated by bureaucracies at every level. And remember, ignorance of the law is no excuse - - - even when there are millions of them. --But Does Peeping Tom Protect You?, by L. Reichard White
There are 100 million words of binding federal law or regulation... more than any person or business can reasonably expect to comprehend. Only a small fraction of these can be enforced - but which [fraction] changes depending on the whim of the inspector on the scene. --'The Rule of Nobody' - Washington Times
"Even if you're not doing anything wrong, you're being watched and recorded. You simply have to eventually fall under suspicion from somebody, even by a wrong call, and then they can use the system to go back in time and scrutinize every decision you've ever made, every friend you've ever discussed something with." --Whistle blower Edward Snowden: Leak of NSA spy programs "marks my end" - CBS News
Every year, thousands of upstanding, responsible Americans run afoul of some incomprehensible federal law or regulation and end up serving time in federal prison. What is especially disturbing is that it could happen to anyone at all -- and it has.... Federal law in particular now criminalizes entire categories of activities that the average person would never dream would land him in prison. --You're (Probably) a Federal Criminal, Brian Walsh -, - July 21, 2009
Boston civil-liberties lawyer Harvey Silverglate calls his new book "Three Felonies a Day," referring to the number of crimes he estimates the average American now unwittingly commits because of vague laws. ... L. Gordon Crovitz: You Commit Three Felonies a Day - WSJ
JEREMY SCAHILL: …you were one of only half-a-dozen members of Congress - not a single senator - to simply state on the record that American citizens have the right not to be assassinated by their own government without due process.
REP. DENNIS KUCINICH: …it's amazing that we're in an America where we have to defend the rights of Americans to be free from assassination by their own country… How long is it before some local police department uses a drone to intercept and kill a suspect, and when that becomes commonplace? --Jeremy Scahill and Dennis Kucinich: In Obama's 2nd Term, Will Dems Challenge U.S. Drones, Killings?
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